All - thanks for the advice, I'm going to check out the SPDs, CrankBro Candies, and ATACS at my LBS and see if i can test ride. not sure if they do that sort of thing, otherwise i'll try to bum a ride off some friends to try them out. I'll let you know how it goes, worst case scenario is i'm still in clips for the ride, but i appreciate the expert advice. Cheers, kj