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Old 04-17-09, 10:46 PM
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Kommisar89
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Bikes: 1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame), 1974 Peugeot UO-8

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Originally Posted by miamijim
Around here the unwritten rule is more or less kind of pre-STI/Ergo or pre-'91. It gets blurred because alot of us retro mod our older bikes by using newer components.

The line also gets blurred when any valuation inquiry for a bike more than 6 months old gets dumped over here.
+1...I'm with Jim on this one.

Tell me really, what's different about a high-end Italian bike from 1990 and a high-end Italian bike from 1960? Not much really. I've often wondered about some of the arbitrary dates that are banied about. Sure there was indexed shifting and clipless pedals and aero brake levers somewhat earlier but the really high-end bikes destined to become classics pretty much still came with old school gear. Campagnolo wasn't at the forefront of technological innovation but they were still at the head of the Pro Peloton. I think a 1990 Bianchi Proto with Campy Chorus would certainly qualify as C&V. STI/Ergo is where I draw the line and that's around 1992. Throw in TIG welding and uni-crown forks and you're pretty much modern.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
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