Originally Posted by
chicbicyclist
Eh, I'm including enthusiasts in that equation. I'm just saying 15 mi is not normal for everyone else. There is nothing wrong with that(on both sides).
That's my whole point: 15 miles
is normal on a bike; anyone, not just "enthusiasts," can do it, no matter what kind of bike they have or what shape they're in. I'm not particularly athletic, and I rode all over northern Italy for three weeks on an upright 5 speed, doing 60-100 km days without even sweating much (the trick is to take your time, and make frequent wine-tasting stops). I've even seen very overweight people do 15-20 miles on a bike with no ill effects whatsoever.
And for the record, I like Dutch bikes. I'm not sure that Americans will embrace them all that much, due to high cost and limited performance, especially in hilly areas, but they are beautiful and a very comfy ride. (Along with some others, I wasn't too crazy about the clothes, though. I would think a pair of Eddie Bauer khakis and a button down shirt would probably be adequate for a 10-12 mph ride.)