Gee, I must be odd. Time Atacs... road and MTB platform. Shared between bikes. Oldest pair (road) is over three years old, and no strip-down for rebuild. Good float. But then they need MTB-type shoes which are passable in social company instead of w@nky road shoes that have people asking why you walk like a duck. Weakness is that if the MTB sole wears, you wear the brass cleats. Oh yeah, I have used them fixed with no problems.