I agree. I actually prefer the "Plus" version of the Ortlieb bags (i.e. cordura as opposed to PVC), having now tried both. The Plus fabric is lighter weight and I find the thinner cordura easier to roll up. But now I can't seem to find the Rack Pack in anything but the "classic" PVC, which is strange - I have an older black cordura Rack Pack from 1998 or so. Maybe they stopped making them in anything but PVC, I dunno.

Neil