This is very interesting. I put the pic of the giant and of the crossroads above in photoshop. then i made them approximatly the same size, plus cropped them so that the wheels were about the same distance from the bottom edge of the jpg. This was done so i could compare the 2 bikes in the windows picture viewer bu going back and fourth quickly. I put them both in a folder with no other picss and opened one in the pic viewer. Using the back or forward mouse button you can quickly go back and fourth between them and really see where the differences in frame geometry lie. Very interesting !

Huge differences, and some tho obvious weren't noticed by my eye till i did this. For example, i didn't realize that the pedal crank/chainring was set forward instead of being right at the bottom of the frame that extends to become the seat stem. Also the much longer wheelbase, which i really really like ! This stuff may seem obvious to you guys, but while i've ridden for years i've never really gotten into the design aspects of bikes at all. In any case, this really makes it apparent how different the giant suede is from other bikes. I like it tho ! I'm getting more and more excited about trying this bike.