I have a Casio with the swivel lens. I really like that option when in crowds and such, but I do find the lack of a view finder a problem in strong sunlight. Qv-8000SX is the model. I bought mine in spring 2000 and love it, I bought it because of the 8X zoom. But like anything else, you have to define your need. I would like to get a smaller one (not that my Casio is that large) that I can put in a shirt pocket and really carry around all the time. Just can't afford it right now.