Originally Posted by hilt00

Exactly, Fat downtube, non slopinng top tube, and track dropouts.

and i use my fixie for riding to school, 700cmx(tr1kz), and going on long rides with my friends. I have all stock parts from my Thommaso, and im not looking to get anything new.

I dont see what people mean when they ask if i want a bike that rides good? i just care if the saddle is comfy, and if i ****ed up my rear hub again.

the leader, and the bianchi pista concept are the only bikes i can think of with those three qualitys.
1.the leader is recycled through my friends(alot of leaders in my town)
2.bianchi pista concept is way to expensive, and extinct. i wouldnt be able to ride that thing hard, because i dont want to **** up the paint.