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Old 02-03-05 | 04:57 PM
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Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix, Lemond Poprad. Retired: Jamis Sputnik, Centurion LeMans Fixed, Diamond Back ascent ex

Riding with groups when the purpose is to push limits even when their are only a few who take stupid risks can cause the others to follow and not challenge - and then behaviors become the norm.
There also are many (if not the majority of non-bike forum) commuters who have terrible road behaviors. This can be because of the opposite effect of riding solo and not learning proper road skills from more experienced riders.
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