Yep, one reason I posted the link. I looked at that first photo and thought "hmm, sure is raked pretty steep compared to the seat tube."

Given that I'm just starting out and don't have $150 cash in hand (till next week anyway ) I thought it merely prudent to post the link and ask first. The hardest part for me has always been being patient and not jumping at the first think that looks halfway decent, after all

Tom