or not. they were actually doing things that had never been done before, on bicycles not designed for it, and back then there were no alternatives, no bikes purpose built for tricks.

fixed riders are doing things that have been done before, years ago, on bikes not designed for it, while there are purpose built alternatives.

there are a million different somewhat valid arguments, and a million plain ridiculous ones, but nobody is going to change anyone else's mind, so it's a waste of time even trying.

the way i feel, is i could really care less what anyone does, as long as they're having a good time. live and let live. i'm not gonna get worked up over it, throw my bike away, and liken myself to a genre of music because of it.