thanks guys.

this is the response i got from the bike shop I ordered from:

"Basically all of these items are produced at the same place, and are branded differently based on how they are distributed.

For example, Origin8 hubs are made by Formula. The only difference between them is whether there is an Origin8 on the hub. Everything else is the exact same."
he also said this is a "running change" and he "expects to see more origin 8 branded hubs showing up."

i received the hubs and there is no branding on them at all! so now i don't know whats what.
i mean, i don't want to smear, but has anyone had any bad experiences ordering from bell's bike shop in Philly?