Originally Posted by
DaveSSS
Read wikipedia? Ride a bicycle, or better yet, a motorcycle through thousands of twisting turns like I have. I have to ask whether you have any real motorcycle or bicycle experience in the mountains? I've ridden bikes for 25 years but never rode anywhere with high speed hairpin turns, until I moved to Colorado, 6 years ago. Anyone can post a link to an encyclopedia, but that doesn't mean that you understand how to apply the information.
I suggested you read the wiki page
and the references but it seems like you didn't. You don't need to ride hills in CO to understand physics.
Both bikes and motorcyles naturally want to go straight and be upright at high speed unless countersteering force is applied to lean and turn the bike.
Agreed. That is how a turn is
initiated.
I also didn't need to weight the outside of the bar or the outside pedal as was claimed to be so crucial.
I don't know where else you think would be a good place to put your weight other than the outside pedal. It may not be necessary to turn but if you want to go fast that's where you should put your weight (unless the roads in CO are perfectly smooth).
I guess those pictures of the motorcyles that were posted, showing the front wheel turned away from the turn with the bike leaning into the turn didn't sink in. That's how they're keeping the bike leaned over and turning sharply.
You mean the one with the bike sliding? Next you're going to try and convince us this picture proves you need to countersteer a car to get around a corner as well.
