Well this thread has gone were threads of a similar topic always go but...Nashbar is what it is. If you choose their base shipping (this goes for Performace and Supergo too) you get what they pick from USPS, UPS ground or FedEx ground. Typically you also get to wait a few days for them to ship the item. But what you never get at the LBS are things like I ordered this weekend. Pair of MTB shoes that retails for $129 for $39 and an $80 saddle that is blemished for $10. Top it off with a 10% discount and the price can't even remotely be challanged by the LBS.