I think we're getting off track here. Ryanwood has stated he has a Shimano Cartidge BB. His frame does not need to be faced. Cartridge BB's are kind of idiot proof, as long as you have the proper threads, install it with the proper torque on the DS, moderate torque on the non-DS and you're good to go. The left side cup really does not need to be torqued as tight as the DS, not even close actually. I've experimented with both, and the left side cup doesn't move either way.


Shimano has some gray stuff on the threads of the cups, and inside the non DS cup. I wouldn't call it loctite, it's more of a filler.

**On the inside of the non DS cup is where it's most prone to creak.**

No one thinks to grease it because the gray stiff is there and when it's new it feels pretty snug, so who would think you need some grease in there? You do, it's almost a sure bet it will creak eventually because the gray stuff breaks down. When my UN-72's started to creak, I took them out, and low and behold, the inside of the non DS cup was bone dry, Aluminum cups rubbing on steel. Creak creak creak. a bit of grease in there and creak was gone.

As bikinfool stated, teflon tape makes a great filler for threads instead of loctite. You can mix it with grease even and when you install the BB you can see all the pretty colors mash together as some gets squeezed out.