ok, i guess i'm exaggerating but it sure as heck seems like it is... i know i have a difficult time pushing my bike up it, the grade is so steep that my hamstrings and heels burn terribly, the only way to get relief is to turn around and face down hill i'll dig up my old gps and see what the altitude change is...

i know on the other side of the hill, where i live, as a ham radio guy, i think i remember looking it up and i'm about 300' below the horizon in all directions... this hill appears to be larger... and much steeper grade...

going down hill, i hold my speed back until i get to the very last bit and then i hit somewhere around 35 mph and have to coast for long way 'cuz i can't pedal that fast...