Originally Posted by max-a-mill

no, i am civilized enough (BARELY) to piss in the grass.... i work (but don't pee) in center city though so i am well aware of the smells you speak of.

and how is peeing outside uncivilized???? it's what we did before indoor plumbing, it all ends up "outside" sooner or later. are you afraid someone will see you willy???? i am not ashamed of mine, but on the other hand i am not going out of my way to show it to anyone either.