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Old 06-20-09 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lambo_vt
Everyone understood; that doesn't make you less wrong. By the way, do you know what an assertion is? You're not using the word correctly.

Physics is physics, you won't increase your power output by training with more weight. Do you see any pro cyclists training with extra weight? Do you really think you know something they don't? Seriously, ask the question in the road forum, or training and nutrition.
“Physics is physics”- and physics is what?

Haven’t you ever heard about the “new findings” in physics? They demonstrate that all the so-called “laws” are not actually “laws” at all (watch “What the Bleep do we Know?” and “What the Bleep- Down the Rabbit Hole?”). Science is always contradicting itself. I am not saying that its not useful, just that’s its too inconsistent to be considered fact. One day the Doctors tell us that salt is good and then the next day they tell us it is bad. The point is that we can make the empirical data fit either side (for the fallacy of induction upon which all science is based see Bertrand Russell’s excellent book “The Problems of Philosophy”). Now, unless you have examined every person in the universe to determine that 10 extra pounds will not increase power how can you make a universal proclamation that it will not? If you have not examined every person in the universe then you cannot make a universal pronunciation that, “you won’t increase your power output by training with more weight.” Have you examined every athlete’s method? Are you other people? Then how can you speak for them?

I respect your right to opinion, but your point is not based on absolute experience, it is not a fact, unless of course you have examined every athlete (person) in the world to find out whether or not one can increase power by training with more weight? Indeed, have you ever gone from a heavy bike to a light bike? Well, I don’t know about you, but I can go further and faster, this has been my experience and I find it the height of arrogance for you to argue against what I have actually proven in my own life. Note well, I did not say that it would be beneficial for “all people” (this would make me as dogmatic as you), different people have different methods, but I think that if a person can go 10 miles with 20 extra pounds then they can certainly go 10 miles without 20 extra pounds and I would be willing to bet that they could do it faster and easier than if they had never carried 20 pounds to begin with.

When I used to pack meat with the Natives of Alaska, I grew stronger, and I could walk farther and faster. Now, if I had never packed the meat, but just walked the miles you seem to think that my performance would be the same. I disagree. At least for me it made a difference. And if you want to say, “well of course you where faster you dropped the 20 pounds.” Yes, but that is my point! Indeed, call your “theory” a popular method, but don’t call it a universal fact. And to be civil don’t get upset- or think that somebody is stupid just because they disagree with your “opinion.” I have not attacked anybody personally throughout my entire thread. I am just trying to keep things fair.

If you disagree that is your right, but again my friend, lets not pretend that I am the only one with a “theory,” while your view somehow qualifies as an “unquestionable fact” even though you have not examined every athlete in the world.

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