Just sold my CR1 and time to get a new ride. Found a Kredo Ultra in my size with Ultegra 10 and Fulcrum 5's for $3100. Seem like a good deal? I love the looks of these frames but have never ridden or seen one in person, i'd have to order online.

An LBS has an 08 Orca with Force not sure on wheelset, they want $3800 but I might could talk them down. I hear Orca's are fragile, seen a lot of cracked frames on here.


Which would you go for? Anyone have any experience with kuotas?

Any other recommendations for mid $3's right now, any crazy deals I should know about? Thanks!