Originally Posted by
CliftonGK1
After spending 3 hours in a fit session, it didn't bother me at all. Basically we set up the fit-cycle with the frame geometry from the Surly, threw my B-17 saddle on it, and played with adjustments from there to determine if it would work for me.
In the end, all we swapped out for hardware was the stem.
+1
I recommend following this course before ordering a Portland.
My Trek 1000 is a 58cm with a 110mm stem. It fits me perfectly.
My Portland is a 56cm with a 90mm stem. It too fits me perfectly.
WTF?
The geometry and, as a result, the riding position is different between the two--primarily due to the taller headtube of the Portland. It's closer to the discontinued "relaxed geometry" Trek Pilot.
I love them both, but switching from the 1000 makes the Portland feel big and upright. Switching back makes the 1000 feel low, like the bars come out of the skewers. It's hard for me to describe how each one feels so different but fits so perfectly.
In any event, ordering a Portland in the same size as you ordinarily ride might not be the right size in a Portland.