Originally Posted by
SwimBike
How so? New ones are right at the $1200 with 105 and a solid alum frame. . I have always considered 105 to be the entry level group for racing.
Spot on. As you said, entry level race bikes, like a Caad9, can be had for around $1200. Aluminum frame vs. the carbon frame on the Orbea, Tiagra/105 vs. the SRAM Force on the Orbea, and most entry level race bikes won't come with the saddle or pedals the ebay Orbea has.