Originally Posted by
Second Mouse
Spot on. As you said, entry level race bikes, like a Caad9, can be had for around $1200. Aluminum frame vs. the carbon frame on the Orbea, Tiagra/105 vs. the SRAM Force on the Orbea, and most entry level race bikes won't come with the saddle or pedals the ebay Orbea has.
ahhhh, got it. I thought you were referring to my comment and saying that the Allez Elite was not an entry level bike.