I though that 400 might be to good to be true. so what is a good price rang to set for myself for a new bike? i have friends that ride single speed merciers how are their road bikes? speficly orion, 800 might be a little high. also motobecane has a few bikes around the same price as the orion 600-650. also i suppose i should try to find these bikes at a local store so see how they feel since Ive never ridden a real road bike before.