[quote=logdrum;9278155]You obviously have not been to the Rockies. Rides start at double the altitude of La Gran Piedra. Flatlanders just faint from walking a few yards initially anyway. A god challenge for Florida folks though,

I had been to Cuba in 1992. Only went as far as Cienfuegos. One of the best places I have been to and really great people. It would be nice to do a race tour of the island.[/QUOTE
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Well..I'm not trying to compare La Gran Piedra with the the Rockies or any other mountain in the world c'mom...and I knew someone would come with something like that,as I mentioned the altitude is just about 4K feet.. but is the elevation of
the las 4 miles or so what makes this place feared by many ciclist,there are plenty of them that after a road race from Santiago to Guantanamo can't climb the last kilometers,is very very hard,very vertical..even for cars,many people had died going up and down from cars,motorcicles accidents.

As far as Cienfuegos goes,is known to be the prettiest of all Cuban Cities.. I know Cienfuegos well,still think Havana is the best..I'm from Santiago de Cuba... 85% of Cubans are really nice people..