wow thanks for all the replys. so what i have gleaned is that the quality of assembly seems to vary and I better check everything. I think if I do get one of the outcast29rs I will fully dissassemble and reassemble and grease all screws. I shouldnt have any trouble with this with only a singlespeed, seeing as I have built a singlespeed from bare frame before, I will keep you guys posted if I get one. BD is running a special on the 29ers with extra chainrings and a fixed cog plus a price discount. This will be my first FG if so, and im psyched. I have some big plans. Anyone know the spacing for this bike? If i decide I want to could I buy a IGH wheelset and switch that in for city riding?