Originally Posted by jhaber

What are you talking about? People ride full carbon on the track (frames,bars,stems,posts,wheels,cranks ect..). There is a reason for this.

I don't get your comment. This is a track bike for the track, that's why I would mess with track geometry.

And mihlbach why are carbon stays a gimmick? They seem to me as much of a gimmick as carbon forks, ie not a gimmick.

I think that getting into full 953 or ti would be too expensive. At that price point I think a lot of people would go to a custom builder for a better fitting frame of lesser material. Like people said alu makes a lot of sense for this bike. So I say why not increase the price a tiny bit by just upgrading the rear triangle. I think carbon matches with the alu main triangle better than some higher level steel which is also a possibility. A little performance boost for not a lot of money makes sense to me and it would be a unique offering on the mid-high level track frame scene.