So we are all in agreement, lazy is a dick?
Originally Posted by
Lazyrider
… LOL Call me a d!ck, but that is how I see it.
Well, he doesn’t object to being called one…
I haven’t been here in a while (some of you guys should try it --- it ain’t so bad!), so my gut feeling is that ole Lazy could have been up to his usual dickery.
But (and I’m not trying to encourage the salty, old curmudgeon)… if you take out some of the trolling and rude(?)/self righteous comments, there’s a point – or at least IMO there is, afterall I’m a slight curmudgeony pinko myself.:
Originally Posted by
Lazyrider
… my objection to someone spending an unnecessary amount of $ on a bike isn't based in jealousy…
Overexuberance and overindulgence are what I think some here object to including myself…
Originally Posted by
Lazyrider
…rich people still "value" money and don't always buy everything that is the "most expensive" just because they can.…
The whole "because I can" theory is so overblown on this forum that many of you really don't know how the super wealthy think. They may drop big money on watches and jewelry, real estate and cars but not on every activity they engage in. And when they do, they are often self conscious that they are "overdoing" it because they don't want to look like idiots. Buying quality and overindulging are totally different things…
BTW, this is more a debate about the overindulgence of American Consumerism than it is about the bike.
Originally Posted by
Lazyrider
…over-exuberance leads to waste in many cases. This is common sense and many of you arguing against this by saying "it is not your money" are just missing the greater point.
Yes, I can do whatever I want with my money. How about I go to the safe deposit box and take out $15k and flush it down the toilet? Please advise me on this because you guys are swaying me.
Originally Posted by
Lazyrider
…I am not a Socialist or Communist but I don't agree with American overconsumption either. The whole redneck ideal of "I am an American and if I want to drive my 12 cylinder gas guzzler, I can because Damn it, I am an American and that is my right".
Capitalism is a good thing, waste is not. You'll see, you'll all see and are witnessing where that is getting us. Look how obese we are, our kids are lazy and stupid compared to European countries, our health care system is ranked behind many other countries that would surprise you. The "Myth" of how great we are in the USA is being exposed.
Watching the Tour De France ride through Switzerland on sunday actually raised this topic in my house. My buddy is in Switzerland as we speak for a conference and emailed me about this same topic as well. They have a higher life expectancy, more money and universal health care. So please stop with the whole USA capitalist ideal.