ok, got it. I'm 6'5"

I wish I could ride some 60cm bikes since there are a lot of them, but generally their top tubes+stem length is just too short for me. I think 62cm is the smallest I can go, I've got a 62cm road bike and I get a pretty big saddle-to-stem drop which is good for the fast rides, but it's very comfortable. Then I've got the 67cm fixie that has a slightly longer TT than my roadie and nearly level saddle-to-stem, that's like my comfort bike. I have also ridden on my friend's 69cm Nishiki but I didn't get to ride it enough to really feel it out.

the Motobecane Messenger looks fugly on bikesdirect but yours looks real nice. Did they change the frame geometry?