@Raiden - thanks for the tip. I've read that most tensioners work better in push up mode rather than push down. Did you try that with the Forte? Curious.

@tmh657 - I know how to use Google I just remember in sparse conversations that alot of the chain tensioners didn't work to well and a select few did. Sure, the mfg.'s will tell you that theirs is always the best. I trust the judgement of the actual users on this forum and would like to hear from them to find which ones work the best.