Originally Posted by billh

Yeah, I will have to give up on this one because you don't really get where I'm coming from. I refuse to talk design or enforcement issues. The thread topic said "bike lanes" not "sidepath". I think the two terms may be used interchangeably in some contexts not. Anyway, I am not interested enough to pursue this distinction with you, except to say that anything to the left of the gutter pan is "on the road" in my book.