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Old 08-18-09 | 02:50 PM
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Greg_R
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Bikes: Surly LHT set up for commuting

Another axis to divide them along is whether they're designed for quick release grab-n-go from the rack, or intended to stay strapped on. Ortlieb is definitely in the former camp here, not sure about arkel.
Arkel has a very secure quick release mechanism as well (+ waterproof zippers & rain covers). Water will eventually work through the fabric unless you have a rain cover. As mentioned, Ortlieb is a dry bag (you could throw it in a river and it would stay dry).
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