Originally Posted by
-holiday76
30-50 and my little fingers get cold coming down the hill from my house when im not warmed up yet on my commute. And no I don't want gloves, I want 70 degrees

You've got it exactly right, friend.
I don't have a Paramount, and I don't have plans, so I'm going back to lurker mode.
Now if we had a Hetchins mileage contest...