Originally Posted by
John Forester
You are lying, Genec, and you have done so for a long time. Read the AASHTO Guide for its classification of bikeways. Furthermore, here is the direct quotation from the California Streets and Highways Code that established these definitions:
"890.4. As used in this article, "bikeway" means all facilities that
provide primarily for bicycle travel. For purposes of this article,
bikeways shall be categorized as follows:
(a) Class I bikeways, such as a "bike path," which provide a
completely separated right-of-way designated for the exclusive use of
bicycles and pedestrians with crossflows by motorists minimized.
(b) Class II bikeways, such as a "bike lane," which provide a
restricted right-of-way designated for the exclusive or semiexclusive
use of bicycles with through travel by motor vehicles or pedestrians
prohibited, but with vehicle parking and crossflows by pedestrians
and motorists permitted.
(c) Class III bikeways, such as an onstreet or offstreet "bike
route," which provide a right-of-way designated by signs or permanent
markings and shared with pedestrians or motorists."
Having to deal, time after time, with these ideological lies and those who present them, has turned this into a den of vipers, unworthy of any effort save that of using the lies to develop an anti-toxin.
How exactly am I lying John... I specifically mentioned that bikeways mean exactly what the legal definition says... I simply said your use of the term "bikeways" is disingenuous, which it is, as you have lumped all the connotations of bikeway into the same meaning when you dismiss bikeways in general.