OK I searched in vain so yes I'm posting a new thread on racks. Hopefully with your help we can get plenty of info in this thread.

Here is the issue I am having, I have a cheap rear rack that does not fully support my grocery panniers, so I am shopping for a new rear rack as well as a front rack for my other bike.

However, photos of racks show only the rack or a pair of panniers with a rack hidden below. It would be awesome if I could get you guys to post a photo of your (mounted) rack, with one pannier on, taken from the unloaded side of the bike. In other words, show us how the pannier is supported.

Fronts & rears, Surly, Jannd, Nitto, whatever you have.

Thanks in advance!