Well Lightnings got the reputation of "upright" seats mostly because of the P-38. You can only recline it so much on that bike because the rear 700c would cause the tire to rub against the back of the mesh. The Thunderbolt could be reclined much more as the smaller 26" wheel places the tire's edge further away from the mesh.

All that said, I did ride the bike with a relatively upright position but it was still more reclined in comparison with the other bikes I owned.

By the way, we're far from topic as this thread was intended to discuss micro folders. This current discussion should be in the Recumbent forum.

Edward Wong III
Qile Duo 5 Speed 20" Folder