We'll see about the frame, I'm expecting a replacement or a credit towards a new one. I'm sure I'm not the first "brute" that this has happened to. I guess I do tend to mash the pedals sometimes but going up I generally like to gear down and go easy on my knees. Before the ride on Monday I slipped off the pedal whilst mounting my bike and cam down on the seat with my ass and probably on the drive pedal with my left foot. Even with that this kind of thing shouldn't happen. I mean I'm only 189 lbs now.

I'll use my Trek 520 tomorrow, stick to the century, I think. I'm going to strip her down tonight, possibly even use some Mavic wheels I have around.

NR-The bottom bracket is really not at all like a traditional BB. There are two sealed cartridges that actually fit into the frame. As for the BB technology, a rider of my speed I don't think all these things add up to much. The Madone is indeed a joy to ride, though the compact is annoying when I need a bit more torque. I'm getting set to ship off or drop of my Cdale frame at that painter in Va. Never had a problem with that bike, but flaking paint.