Originally Posted by
smasha
I think it's been demonstrated that bolt cutters aren't going to pop a NY3000 with a 16mm hardened shackle.
But jclaine said:
When I showed my classmate who used to be a bike tech he said the lock looked like it was cut with bolt cutters. He's seen a fair amount of cut locks and cut a few him self getting stolen bikes back for people.
So don't rule this out. Thieves in the UK have started using modified super high-leverage bolt cutters to cut the highest rated motorcycle security chains.
There are two cuts on that lock. Assuming the lock was attacked with power tools, I don't see how a tool could have made the cut along the straight part of the lock, above the mounting spline. If the lock was properly filled, I don't see how a power tool could have reached that part of the lock.
I don't see how you can say that without seeing a picture showing the locked bike in situ, regardless of whether the lock was filled.
Apologies for being tact challenged, but every time a bike is stolen, we can either learn as much as we can from it, or keep repeating mistakes.
I think you could have asked for more details without telling the guy what he "should" have done. Which in this case I'm sure wouldn't have worked - the bike was picked out by pros and if they couldn't have taken the bike intact they would probably have cut the frame.
If the bike is locked snuggly through the seat stays or chain stays, it's a lot more work to cut the frame than if the lock is loosely around the top tube.
That is a good point. Or at least I'd agree with "more work", if not "a lot more work". Aluminum isn't noteable for its resistance to cutting.
Lessons so far: 1) Spend 20% of the bike's value on locks, even if that means several locks/alarms. 2) Use a U-lock and a chain, or two U-locks, or more. 3) Use a beater bike when you go out drinking. 4) Some bikes just shouldn't be left unattended.
Shouldn't there be a sticky/faq on bike security?