I kind of like the padding in the tounge. The padding is good for when your skidding and skipping because it provides cushion from the strap. The problem is really in the toe box and profile. I liked the Lakai Manchester series because it was low profile and not too much padding. Right now, I'm using the Nike skateboard edition of the old Terminators which is great, but really hard to find. The Vans Jim Greco look pretty good too. The old skool vans are good in the summer time, but after long distances, the soft soles can be a real ***** with their lack of support.