Originally Posted by Tulex

No DrPete, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying people have to own what they do. A woman has the right to walk through Central Park at 2AM. Doing so would be stupid. So when she gets *****, sure the guy is wrong. Does it make her right?

My point is, having a right doesn't make it right. And quite frankly, I have no desire to be PC. I'm extremely tired of watching movements go from people not having rights to those same people abusing rights. And when it comes to women being provocative, it's not anyones personal view of whether or not she is, but the general opinion that will matter. And if a woman is seen as a dick tease, there won't be much sympathy for her when she gets called on it. Again, own what you do.

Originally Posted by DrPete

Engaging in high-risk behavior doesn't make the perp any less wrong. The "general opinion" is completely irrelevant--a woman has the right to not have a violent felony committed against her no matter what she's wearing.

My wife works in sexual assault prevention on a large college campus, and the number of women who get ***** is ridiculously shocking--the number of men who never see any consequences for it is even more nauseating. The "she was asking for it" culture goes well beyond walking through Central Park at 2 AM. Yes, the reality is that it's a bad idea, but the only one truly "wrong" is the man who takes advantage of that situation. And going back to your "general opinion" idea, there are plenty of frat boys whose brothers have the "general opinion" that drugging and gang raping women is perfectly OK, and that "if they don't want it, they shouldn't be hot." Yes, that's a real quote. Personally, I'd like to change that culture before my daughter has to grow up in it.

Bottom line is that if men didn't **** women, there'd be no women getting *****, even if women walked down the street completely naked.