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Old 09-20-09 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Engaging in high-risk behavior doesn't make the perp any less wrong. The "general opinion" is completely irrelevant--a woman has the right to not have a violent felony committed against her no matter what she's wearing.

My wife works in sexual assault prevention on a large college campus, and the number of women who get ***** is ridiculously shocking--the number of men who never see any consequences for it is even more nauseating. The "she was asking for it" culture goes well beyond walking through Central Park at 2 AM. Yes, the reality is that it's a bad idea, but the only one truly "wrong" is the man who takes advantage of that situation. And going back to your "general opinion" idea, there are plenty of frat boys whose brothers have the "general opinion" that drugging and gang raping women is perfectly OK, and that "if they don't want it, they shouldn't be hot." Yes, that's a real quote. Personally, I'd like to change that culture before my daughter has to grow up in it.

Bottom line is that if men didn't **** women, there'd be no women getting *****, even if women walked down the street completely naked.
Again, I'm not talking about how wrong a perp is or isn't. I'm talking about owning what we do. If a woman wants to be provocative, she is doing so at her own risk. Right or wrong, it is a fact. We all make choices in the same way, so to single out women is to ignore the fact that we all have to look out for ourselves. And we all do to some level. Just as I don't ride through the inner city, some women don't dress provocatively to help prevent negative results.

How is dressing provocatively not high risk if there is a known likelihood of negative results from doing so? Quite frankly, I find your argument that there is right and wrong to ignore reality. We would have to not have free will for it to work, a place I don't care to go. Think about it DrPete, if man isn't supposed to react to a woman being provocative, what would she do to get a man to make an advance? Would we make a law that if a woman wears green, it's a go? Believe it or not, many women that do dress provocatively do want an advance made on them. That is why the do it.
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