^^ your prior avatar was way better (btw - was that you in the avatar with the little boy?)

my beef with ergon grips is that you have to grip them from a particular angle. with uniformly round grips - i can easily take my hands on and off and make no effort to position my hands. maybe i'm just clumsy but the ease of doing that enables me to move my hands around some more and keem them relieved. i've never had real ergon grips but i did have one shaped like that in hard plastic as a stock component.