Originally Posted by
asgelle
You say this is easy, but you have not presented any test which would separate out the influence of design from material. A simple example shows why this is not only difficult but unrealistic. Compare and contrast the ride characteristics of a Vitus 929 and a Cannondale CAAD 3 with special attention to the role of frame material.

ah the joys of BF...
so how do you suppose they design automobiles? or are bicycles that much more complex? Yes that is a rhetorical question. Ah! too many variables