Originally Posted by
Lazyrider
My argument is not "for or against" carbon fiber. I think they offer the best performance and weight but when I see what goes into a ti frame built in USA, the mainland Chinese $4k frames seem odd to me.
What mainland China $4K frames? And haven't we beaten this topic to death? Especially after discussing issues such as R&D, branding, warranties, materials used and method of construction. Where your panties should be up in a bunch is a generic frame bike with one name pasted on it being sold in a store for 3 times as much as the same frame with another name being sold over the internet.