Originally Posted by crazybikerchick

I've pretty much given up asking locals about the hilliness of routes. I've actually had people get it wrong both ways. One route that someone told us "oh that's hilly!" turned out to be darned near close to pancake flat. I got really confused at that one. My only theory was they were a recreational cyclist with a really heavy bike! But yes most of the time drivers don't notice the hills that are there. And rollers can seem really hilly but be easy on a bike where its the long climbs that go unnoticed by the drivers.