Originally Posted by
23skidoo
My shoulder, elbow and hip joints were sore well into the new year from what had to be a crash at no more than 2 mph.!!

Not to hi-jack this thread, nor to send it on a tangent, but you mention being sore after a 2mph crash. Well, in order to avoid a car turning left in front of me, I went into a track stand and unfortunately my front wheel happened to be right on a wet manhole cover (rainy day). I ended up chipping the greater trochanter off my femur. Eight weeks on crutches due to a fall at 0 mph. Yes, I'm the same guy with the fractured pelvis in the early post. So boys and girls, not only should you avoid those pesky leaves, but stay away from wet lane markers and manhole covers.