Originally Posted by
tadawdy
While there has been some contention about the completeness of proteins, this isn't exactly a great source. Everyone seems to have an agenda. His statement that it is impossible to have a calorically sufficient, protein-deficient diet tells me he's never heard of kwashiorkor or marasmus. It is entirely possible. Big red flag.
Like i said in my first post, these deficiencies only manifest if you vastly under eat. There is no way to be protein deficient on a plant based diet if you eat sufficient calories. Just look at the wiki's for marasmus and kwashiorkor both only happen when your severely malnourished.
Originally Posted by
tadawdy
It should be fairly obvious to anyone familiar with animals (particularly ruminants) that we do not digest certain plant materials (like cellulose) as well as they do.
If its so obvious why don't they have scientific fact to back it up? Feel free to try to prove plant sources are some how inferior, you won't find any literature to back you up.
http://chestofbooks.com/health/natur...-Proteins.html
Originally Posted by
tadawdy
The author makes the very wrong assumption that we do, and can extract whatever is in a plant. The truth is that we can't because there is simply so much other material, some of them in fact anti-nutrients (e.g. oxalic acid and tannins), associated with the amino acids.
I personally avoid foods that contain oxalic acid and tannins, there are only a few and there easy to get by without.
Originally Posted by
tadawdy
There is a system called biological value that calculates the amount of the protein incorporated into the human body when we eat a food. It is typically quite low for plant foods, and quite high for animal foods.
Link to this value system?
Originally Posted by
tadawdy
This is one area where animal foods are actually beneficial. Others have mentioned B-12 and heme-form iron. We are omnivores, and can benefit from eating a wide variety of foods.
B-12 isn't from meat... its made by bacteria,
http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.c...ndex.php?s=B12 . Iron is abundant in plant foods, this is a major scare tactic used by most people. Most plant based foods contain iron in sufficient amounts, eating just one watermelon which is nothing will give me 30%+ of my recommended value
Originally Posted by
tadawdy
Even if it were possible to get your generally-accepted recommendation (in this case around 2g/kg of protein per day)
Generally accepted by who? our brain washed culture? according to that formula i would need 132 grams of protein a day. Do you realize how insane that is? Babies only need 6% protein and that's the time in your life when you need the most protein! According to the government(who i think is still overestimating) i need less then half that amount of protein...
Originally Posted by
tadawdy
For long-term survival, vegetarianism can be great. It makes eating for athletic performance a little more difficult.
It actually makes it easier especially if the majority of your cals are from fruit, my glycogen stores are massive and i can go for very long without "bonking". Maybe if you under eat on salads all day it will be more difficult...