Originally Posted by n8tron

Call me crazy even with these close ups but I still can't completely tell exactly the tube shapes of the Cooper. Sometimes they look diamondy, sometimes they look round. The light always seems to hit them at the edge... but close up... i don't know...

What shapes are the top and down tubes?

Is there a ride quality difference between straight gauge and butted titanium? cause the price difference is huge considering a small weight savings.