Well, mlerner is my brother, but I will admit to being loose with numbers. I weighed my '50 Clubman 3-speed on my hanging digital scale, and without pedals or saddle it came to 25.4 lbs. I guess I'm off by 3%. However, I did weigh my 1937 Raleigh Sports w/ full chaincase and rear rack, and that came to 40.5 lbs. I could have sworn it didn't feel a pound over 50.

Neal