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05-25-15, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dynodonn

One, but I'm thankful that more motorist do not take up the same practice.

Your thanks would be topical on a thread that discussed the legalization of motorists treating stop signs as yields on carforums.com.

05-25-15, 10:19 PM

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I see very few motorist come to a complete stop at stop signs. Motorist stop about as often as cyclist do.
And some cops expect cyclist to do more than a complete stop, they expect cyclist to put a foot on the ground to prove a complete stop. Maybe the same should apply to motorist; open the door, put a foot down, then you can proceed.

Must be a different scenario in my area, since I see far more motorists making complete stops at stop signs than I see cyclists doing the same. In years past, motorists making "Hollywood stops" in my area were a rarity but have now become a more common sight today.

05-25-15, 10:46 PM

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Your thanks would be topical on a thread that discussed the legalization of motorists treating stop signs as yields on carforums.com.

A motor vehicle weighing several thousand pounds packs far, far greater punch if a motorist errs in their judgement of an intersection being clear.

05-25-15, 11:04 PM

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Right on red was enacted in the 70's to reduce fuel consumption and emissions, and is now federally governed as part of each states energy conservation plan required to receive federal assistance. I wasn't driving age in the 70's, but I do remember there was resistance to it.
Idaho stops are a "convenience" that reflects the reality that cyclists are not motorists or pedestrians.

I was driving age and although the stated reason was gas savings, the real reason it easily spread was motorist convenience. 55 mph was for gas savings, how many states still have that limit and is there still a federal 55 mandate. The difference between the two tails tells the real story.

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