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Old 05-14-16 | 03:01 PM
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Look, then look again and again

Had a feeling he was going to pull out in front of us so I was already slowing. Trying to give the motorist the benefit of the doubt and maybe the a-pillar or angle was just right for not seeing us but he did not really look before leaping and we are lit and bright. That is a tough intersection, we come out that way on our bike sometimes. Was missing my airzounds but he heard my voice.

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Old 05-14-16 | 03:18 PM
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Had a feeling he was going to pull out in front of us so I was already slowing. Trying to give the motorist the benefit of the doubt and maybe the a-pillar or angle was just right for not seeing us but he did not really look before leaping and we are lit and bright. That is a tough intersection, we come out that way on our bike sometimes. Was missing my airzounds but he heard my voice.

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Put your light on strobe.
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Old 05-14-16 | 03:26 PM
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Probably thinking he could make it before you got there (not judging your speed well)

BTW you have nice smooth roads, which we had them that good in the UK
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Old 05-14-16 | 05:16 PM
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Had the same kind of thing happen to me. It was night. I had the full 200 lumen of my headlamp on. I was going along a side street. Far into the distance a pickup truck stopped at the intersection on the right side. When I came close enough for him to determine I was a bicycle, he proceeded to make his right turn almost cutting me off. It wasn't close enough but the fact he proceeded just tells you he wouldn't have done it if I were a car or a motorcycle.
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Old 05-14-16 | 05:19 PM
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I always say: Look twice, Save a Life.
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Old 05-14-16 | 05:21 PM
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Had the same kind of thing happen to me. It was night. I had the full 200 lumen of my headlamp on.
I chortle in your general direction...
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Old 05-14-16 | 05:26 PM
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Oh it was on strobe. Quite a bright light too. Some people just go if they don't see a car coming. They don't register anything else.

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Put your light on strobe.
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Old 05-14-16 | 05:35 PM
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Some people pull out in front of huge trucks. You never know.
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Old 05-14-16 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by trailangel
I always say: Look twice, Save a Life.
The o.p. is saying look three times... my SO and tandem partner is blind. We have worked out a system of terse voice commands to synchronize our efforts. One of them is "foot!" This is for her to momentarily stop pedaling so I can clip my landing foot in. What she would like is a set number of pedal strokes after every start, that she could use as a nice consistent rule... erm...no. Sometimes it takes more strokes because there is a hill... sometimes there is heavy traffic around and I am unwilling to commit to clipping in until we are clear... sometimes I am ready to clip in after just one stroke because we are on a downslope... she can't see any of those things and it drives her crazy waiting for my "foot" command. I feel her trying to force the issue and stop pedaling to force me to clip in because she feels enough strokes have taken place.

Do you see where I am going... look as many or as few times as are needed to be safe. Rules are for mathematics, not for riding in traffic. You don't need to look three times, or even twice, when you didn't see anything the first time you looked and you don't hear anything one second later. Nothing can close that much space so quickly, not even a car approaching at 60mph. If you can't hear a car approaching at 60mph you have other problems and even then a series of looks might not be the best strategy. Maybe not taking your eyes off the vulnerable direction until you are well underway... but you get the idea. Sometimes I look four or five times, sometimes I look only once. It is highly situational and I resist those (like my SO) who would like to distill every life situation down to a static rule. That way lies accidents. We haven't had one yet on the tandem and we are past the ten year mark riding nearly every day, rain or shine in pretty urban surroundings.
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Old 05-14-16 | 06:01 PM
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No, look at least 2 times.
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Old 05-14-16 | 06:02 PM
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Happens a lot people are just stupid.
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Old 05-14-16 | 08:38 PM
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I find the trailer of the pickup truck at the beginning scary.
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Old 05-14-16 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jimc101
Probably thinking he could make it before you got there (not judging your speed well)
This.
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Old 05-14-16 | 10:38 PM
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Happens a lot people are just stupid.
I hear that about 50% of people are of below average intelligence.
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Old 05-15-16 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by trailangel
No, look at least 2 times.
Agreed. Look twice, save lives.
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Old 05-15-16 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Number400
Had a feeling he was going to pull out in front of us so I was already slowing. Trying to give the motorist the benefit of the doubt and maybe the a-pillar or angle was just right for not seeing us but he did not really look before leaping and we are lit and bright. That is a tough intersection, we come out that way on our bike sometimes. Was missing my airzounds but he heard my voice.

https://youtu.be/vyoG_xZJ1Gg
He saw you, but he didn't realize you were moving that fast. And, judging by the video, you really were flying--not that there is anything wrong with that, but you have to figure that into your equation.

Curious though. Do you know what speed you were going? It looks like about 30 mph.
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Old 05-15-16 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris0516
Put your light on strobe.
Watch the end of the video. It was on strobe.

Get a brighter light. Whenever someone does something dumb to me, IMO it's an excuse to get a brighter light.
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